This can't be right. Elastomeric coating $105 a square?!

 
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:58 PM   #1
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This can't be right. Elastomeric coating $105 a square?!


This can't be right... 70 square granulated modified job. The customer wants an elastomeric coating system as proposed by the other roofer. The other roofer's proposal reads as (yes it's just about this basic)

Power wash the existing roof.
Apply Elastomeric coating in 2 coats at 3 gallons per square.
$7,400.

WTF?! I usualy ball park $250-$300 a square. On this job I figure 2 men a day for wash and repair. His proposal says nothing about any repair or prep work and much of the seams are splitting. Then I figure 3 men 2 days for base and top coat. Total 8 man days or 64 man hours (same thing).

Material is $6-9k depending on manufacturer and type (acrylic, urethane, sebs). If I were to do this job for less than $15k I'd be stupid. I'd be closer to $17k with the prep using an SEBS. What I think happened is the other guy meant $17,400 and forgot to carry the 1.

Am I wrong or is this guy a friggin idiot?!

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Old 04-27-2011, 11:07 PM   #2
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Re: This can't be right. Elastomeric coating $105 a square?!


who knows..it happens in the shingling jobs..
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Could be a number of things. Could be using cheap coating. At 3 gals per square seems to be way too much, but could be what ever brand he is using. Bottom line, its way to cheep and he messed up one way or another.
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3 gallons per square, or 2 applications of 1.5 gallons per square per coat is fairly typical of most elastomeric I have applied. This is so that the material will dry cure to about 24 dry mills. If you're just going for UV, then a silvercoat at like 3 squares per gallon would be fine. See the inverse?
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I read 2 coats at three gallons per sq. The product we have used is 1-1.5 gal per sq. per coat.

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Apply Elastomeric coating in 2 coats at 3 gallons per square.
So at 1.5 per coat per sq is close to the product we use. Either way the other "roofer" is off.

What brand do you use grumpy?
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I like Lucas #6000 Universal. I used to use Adurel, I almost started using ER Systems but settled on Lucas for a number of reasons.
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We us GAF Top Coat. Good stuff, The ER guy has knocked on the door a few times. Never have had a chance to try it out though.
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The main competitor using GAF top coat around here doesn't even wash their roofs, just broom sweeps them. Hard to compete against that. They are a no frills no thrills 3rd generation commodity roofing company. They suprisingly have a good reputation, because they will own up to their mistaks, but they take so many short cuts...

I don't know alot about top coat, correct me if I am wrong, they make acrylic only? Acrylic is fine with good slope, but if there is any puddling, it won't hold up for more than a few years.


All my research shows ER is real top of the line product. For logistical reasons I chose not to go with them, but darned near almost pulled the trigger on it.
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Its Elastomeric, have both water and solvent based. Ponding up to 48 hours like most coating.

brushing off the roof only? Thats nonsense, I wonder how many times GAF warned them about it. Pretty easy to tell when they are not doing roof prep right.
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With the volume they move, GAF doesn't care.
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