why would u leave your roof open

roof-lover

Why would you leave your roof open?

because the government knows how to run your business better than you do.

In florida, roofs have to be completely torn off to the decking, renailed with 8d ringshank nails and felted in completely.
You must wait on the inspector to get there before you are allowed to install your roofing. You have no idea when the inspector is getting there.
He could be early or he could be late but you better be ready either way with a million new fasteners in the sheeting and a million cap nails in the felt. The government doesnt care if a storm is coming. They dont care about the insides of your customers homes, they dont care about the incredible increased cost of your business.

All those of you who paper and shingle as you go... those days will be ending soon. they will be coming for your state soon. You think they are going to stop with florida? You give government a lil power and then they take it ALL. They are making up new rules every month.
You voted for it!!

Grumpy

Several municipalities around here are beginning to require ice shield inspections. Alot of time the inspector is late and we take photographs showing the ice shield was installed and that satisfies them. You ever hear my story about 911 and the WTB and who I was arguing with and about what while the towers were collapsing? Funny how I will remember that argument my entire life when in the grand scheme of things it was meaningless.

stupid dump inspector was something like 2 hours late for his ice shield inspection, showed up with an attitude and told us to rip off the roof so he could see the ice shield. I told him I wasn't going to tell the guys that since he was 2 hours late I wasn't paying the guys to stand around waiting. Then encouraged him to go tell the guys and see if they didn't throw their hammers at him (we were still hand nailing at that time). He decided to accept the photographs.

At that time I began to avoid the cities who required the ice shield inspections, but it just got to the point that it'd be impossible but most of the cities and villages around here requiring it are very flexible with the photographs.

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RemStar

Grump can you please direct me to a post where you debated this topic:
"If you are an owner/operator setup you are better off getting a job"

Anyone who is a owner is a operator to some degree, I am just intrested to see what you said about the topic.

Grumpy

WTF do skylights have anything to do with this post? Stop spamming damnit!

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stevie d

sometimes i leave it open 1 hour just long enough for a beer run never over night

gtp1003

Would never asking for problems. tear of what you can put back on the same day or well the crew has mental issues flet blows away unless the orange tackers are used and that will not protect a rain storm, and then drywall is now your baby. Lets just say i learned the hard way years ago.

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yanceyman1

gtp1003, Are you serious!? Apparently you did not bother to even read all of the threads on this discussion. I don't want to go into a long winded debate over this AGAIN, but this discussion started over multiple leaks in a Sharkskin underlayment on an 85 sq., 8 in 12 tile job with 496 ft. of hips & 512 ft. of valley. Please read ALL of the threads before you comment. If you are a certified journeyman, try and remember that there are apprentices and homeowners that read these and your oppinion could influence them into making a WRONG choice when managing their project.
With that being said, let me point out the many LARGE flaws in your responce. 1. On a job such as this, it is close to impossible to do your "tear-off what I put back method".To many hips and valleys. I'm not sure how much you know about tile, ( NOT MUCH ), But unlike comp, your underlayment MUST be watertight. That means double jacking all protrusions, turning up the walls, ect... As far as blow offs go, I have been applying tile roofs for over 25 yrs. From Sacramento to Monterey and I have NEVER seen felt from a tile roof blow off after the batts have been installed and the tile loaded. I have had multiple tile roofs sit out in the rain, just base and batts, for days at a time and they would be rockn and painting inside. Never had a problem. Is it a risk? For roofers like you ,YES! For myself, none what-so-ever. I have complete confidence in my ability to install the underlayment in a watertight manner.
Hope this helps. If you have any questions on how you to can accomplish this, contact your local State Apprenticeship Program and sign up. Or yopu can allways give me a call. I'll walk you throught it.

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gtp1003

Re reading an entire post is not my point. I would never leave anything open i could not do regardless of what felt or underlayment. Its my opnion why on earth is it your concern what i think really? Regardless unless ice and water and that illegal to do to cover an entire roof anyway. I made sure my guys did what they could do in a day. Even when i was swinging a hammer 20 years ago. it's my 2 cents i don't care what type of material is being used. its just not good business and i stoped shingling in and would be a journeyman if i cared about the card that means nothing just like a degree, its a piece of paper. I have 20 years under my belt. So i do know a little something about roofing. You guys can do whatever you want thats the way i did not no matter how big the roof was. If you cant put it back on and its long as heck leave a portion open tarp heavy and continue. that's my 2 cents.

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gtp1003

i spoke to tinner666 and well we both agree its a bad move. No offense grumpy i know you are good at what you do but a roof that big is alot of risk if you get a good downpour. When i had my company there was never a roof left with any type of underlayment. the roof was done in 1 day. the crew i had 110 squares a day clean. Just my thoughts.

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Grumpy

No offense to me for what? I wouldn't leave my roofs open either.

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