yanceyman1

Well Grumpy, I guess we do see eye to eye on at least one subject! And I got to tell you, you sound alot like most of the really great journeyman I've worked with over the years. I know we didn't start off on the right foot and for that I apoligize. I can be a real a*#h&%e sometimes.
So until we talk again... May a your knee pads always be comfortable, your compressior always start on the first pull and your jobs always cost-out at 8% profit!

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4 seasons

A worker that is truly passionate about someone elses company is hard to find. I myself found that once I worked for myself, the length of the day no longer seemed to matter, and I also worked harder than I ever had before. It is just plain and simple that most guys only work for their paycheck and are just staring at the clock all day. I have realized this, and it has made me appreciate the hardworkers that are out there. For that those guys are compensated!!!

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Slyfox

Your right, most workers are simply wanting to put their time in and get home or off to after hour projects.
I was always a company man, meaning when I worked for Simon Roofing I worked for them period.
My after work projects were either non roofing related or roof related for Family or myself.
As foremen, the guys/gals working under me were my workers,
that was the same when I was a supervisor.

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Jasonthompson

Hey slyfox do u still work for simon, I worked for them also

Slyfox

No, I quit in mid 1991.
I started in their Youngstown, Ohio office and than relocated to their Tampa, Florida office but didn't last long down there.
Long story short, they promised NO more out of state travel once I moved to Florida and I was there three days and they sent me Texas. Lol.

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Grumpy

I'm not against a guy who's in it for a pay check, so long as they don't bring any drama. If they show up on time, follow the rules, do what I want the way I want and don't milk it out... What more can I ask? They've earned their check.

However beign a company man and truly caring about the success of the company, you're lucky to have those kinds of guys. I've only ever found one, and made the mistake of promoting him to his lvel of incompetence. We all have that level though the level is different for everyone.

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Jasonthompson

what a pain in the ass it was to work for them sending me all over the place worked out for there los angeles office quit there after they wouldn't pay my travel expenses from one trip

Slyfox

I went to work for them in 86/87' and they had one office/shop on the south side of Youngstown with 75 employees (I believe it was), now they have offices/shops all across the country.
The two main guys Jamie and Alex Simon are straight up tell it like it is kinda people that you can respect even in argumentative times but they have a hole bunch of rough around the edges kinda people running the company with them.
The companies been family owned since the early 1900's.

The first time I ever personally seen a shingle roofer install 30 plus squares of shingles in one 12 hour work day was on a job I did for Simons in Plainview, Texas.
I was to say the least not impressed, being that fastener placement and shingle uniformity were excused for the sake of production.
Not that the shingle courses or nails ran outrageously wild, they were just far less of quality compared to the guys who only did 20 to 25 squares in the same time frame.
They did not do much shingle work when I was there, the Plainview, Texas job was the only full shingle roof I remember.

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Jasonthompson

Ya they are all over the country. I did alot of work for them, but they treat there people like shit and don't care much for them. I did any shingle jobs for them I just did commerical repairs for them all over the place. But now I'm so glad not to be working for them anymore. Thank god!!!

ricaroofers

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