Why don't all roofing companies negotiate with insurance companies?

Grumpy

Double that $160-180 and we're just getting started. I charge more than the insurance is willing to pay. I won't get out of bed for $250. That's why I don't do insurance work.

ROFLMFAO ... 210-250... and people wonder why I hate storm chasers? They comeinto town and kill the market with their $210-250 a square. LOL You're charging $250 and think you are being fairly compensated?! What do you pay your employees, $12 an hour? Do you even have workers comp? How do you make money at $210? Seriously.

Now open your eyes and charge what a legitimate roofing company deserves to charge not what a greedy corporate insurance company thinks you are worth.

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Grumpy

Dude, you made my day! I was going to ignore you because you are a storm chaser, but you're just too funny.

But I gotta go now. I am going to close a sale on a job that has nothing to do with insurance. Selling a lifetime Solaris shingle for $450 a square and 80 mil PVC for $420. It's a $40,000 job.

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buildpinnacle

What do you think of the Solaris, Grump? One of my suppliers is really pushing Certainteed down our throats and they have just never had a good foothold in this market.

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Grumpy

Well to be honest the solaris are nothing more than the Lifetime/50 year landmarks with reflective granuals. They cost more than the Life time landmarks too. I hear the granuals are reflective because they go through an additional glazing/coating step. I also think marketing is involved with the whole tax credit thing.

I find that on the standard typical house the home owner gets a free upgrade to a life time shingle. What I mean is $1,500 is typically the cost difference between the 30 year landmark and the solaris. So they pony up the bucks upfront and then get it back on their tax return.

It kind of makes sense when you look at it like that, but most people don't. furthermore if you have bought any appliances or windows you may already be maxed out ont he neergy rebate so the roof might not be worth it. In either regard the solaris is certainly a good product.

This is going to be a kick butt job and I'll post pics of the Solaris once complete.

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Malachi

Wow that's all you get a square? What market are you in? I get more than that and I don't even deal with insurance company's. The insurance company's here are doing work for 325-350 a square.

Grumpy

I can't wait for the book he promised to write!!!

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ctroofer0930

I am a "storm chaser" who happens to LIVE in the area I support. I have never left the state. TWO of my neighbors are getting NEW SLATE ROOFS that were beat to smithereens by hail. The insurance company came in LOW on both estimates, of course, not wanting to shell out the money. Bottom line is this: we only do what the insurance company SAYS we can do. Without us on-site during the adjustment, the insurance folks tend to ignore the obvious and cut checks for 50% of the damage. I can show you docs, "Grumpy" (guess the name says it all), to validate. It is then up to us to have a re-inspect to have a new set of eyes on the obvious. Most of the adjusters here have never seen damage to slate before. Heck, even the "engineers" they send out have only been on one or two!!!!

By the way, we can't FORCE insurance companies to pay for damage that does not exist. And how are we scumbags, showing homeowners that their roofs have damage that can impact the interior of their homes, VOID THEIR WARRANTIES (check it out) and decrease the value of their properties??? Not to mention that we spend an average of 20 hours per job in paperwork alone!!!!

Scumbags??? Ask the hundreds of homeowners with new, sound roofs if we are scumbags.

Excuse me, I have to go cash my $12,000 commission check for that slate roof we just installed.

leakfree

ctroofer0930
Your confusing me.
If you live in the area that you support how can you also be a storm chaser?
Do you really spend 20 hours in paperwork alone per job? My family would starve at that rate.
But hey, along as it works for you.

RooferJim

storm chasers in conneticut ??? seems odd, never seen them in Mass.

cavesrus

Grumpy i stand with you 110 %. One i do insurance work and typical have to go back to ins. for more cash. But no worries and never takes 20 hour ROFLMAO.

only one company name i can say just folded

American Shingle. Took over 4000 peoples ACV that i was heard of. i know of at least 400 + in the KC metro area alone. I have olny had like 30 calls so far to do the work they screwed people out of.

2nd you want to run a biz stay in one area dont chase a storm and i know that adjusters pay for roofs that dont need it all the time. 90 % dont know hail dmaage to save there life. they cave to keep the customer happy.

just my 2 cents.

i advertise and have a reputations.

Just FYI american shingle just are already back in biz in my area under a new name. BAH!!!!!!!!!!!! Scum bags