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Old 04-02-2009, 04:01 PM   #11
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A lot of guys say it is not about price, but I am not completely convinced. With that in mind:

1. Purchasing Power- In my experience we roof about a hundred tear off and put back squares per week. When I get the bigger 80, 100, 200 square projects I send out for updated/ best pricing and sometimes it is upwards to 12 or 15 dollars per square less! Never working retail I can only imagine the mark ups they are using, but I am curious and I think that would help actually knowing.

2. Exclusively Roofers- And I am thinking Residential or Condo's ect., (as the Industrial Roofers have their own Pricing Structure and Requirements to handle that volume/ quantity of work).

* Updated monthly website accessible to HO's to verify Members Insurance is Active, If Complaints are reported they are addressed.

I am thinking this is also something that is "Price per monitored" ... Meaning as a whole being completely legit
across the board as I mentioned above and operating at a minimum set amount and it stays above.

Personally I would feel comfortable sharing such a list / website with HO's making the fight fair, protecting them (Insured, ect.) and protecting me from low ballers.

Bills in by the 10th, so would be Certificates of Insurance to stay on the Website or off you go!

I would think $100 bucks a month times 300 Club members would pay the bills ( Website, Office Personal, material negotiators - I am sure a couple major suppliers would jump at having 300 promising to buy from them, at my volume which is not much compared to some of you- that is around a million square!

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Old 04-02-2009, 04:19 PM   #12
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Ron,

I have to admit, that I actually typed in a very lengthy post earlier, but had to redact the information, because the time is not yet right for it to get out, as we are still engaging some other interested parties and do not want to let the cat out of the bag, if we ever actually establish a "bag", in the first place.

Some legal and accounting considerations are still being looked at.

Please provide as many useful ideas as you can though, for me to see if what I feel is needed, actually winds up being what is thought about by other contractors.

I will promise to reveal more, when the time comes, which I hope is not just a pipe dream.

I do know through much research, which I am very vigorous and thorough about, that what ever the fee proposed, the savings would substantially offset the investment by a wide margin. And, that is not by making up a whole bunch of "What If" scenarios, like is so common with most people trying to sell you something.

Take Market Sharp Software for example:
They promise exceptional results, but that is all based on the validity that their software will produce an exponential quantitative amount of financial goals and results, which it very well might actually do, but I am NOT willing to spend $2,000.00 to $5,000.00 to find out for myself, unless they offered a money back guarantee of at least a portion of the fee paid.

I do not believe that contractors should continue to pay the price of someone creating a function, such as a software that has a fixed development cost, yet they continue to charge the exorbitant initial fees, even when volume should have gotten that cost under control. At the point of volume saturation, even the first members to sign up and purchase those softwares, should be granted a future rebate, based on their initial higher priced purchase amount.

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I have thought about starting some kind of a business to help contractors with sales & marketing also.

About a year ago a marketing guy that has done some work for asked me to partner with him but I decided not to do it.

With the way the Detroit market has been going I had to focus all my efforts on keeping my roofing business going.

I’m located in a rural area that has 16% unemployment and I commute to the Detroit suburbs. Between the difficulty of the slow economy and the time I am spending driving I figured I would not be able to invest enough time in starting another business.

Meanwhile I am constantly improving my sales & marketing methods. Maybe someday I’ll be able to offer some kind of sales training and marketing products for contractors.
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