Sales Manuals, Courses and Organizations.....Any Experience And Opinions?

Ed the Roofer

Not counting the influence done to the industry from the economy, was the membership worthwhile prior to the Great Recession?

What did you see that he.they personally gained from becoming a member, once the sales pitch star-dust wore off?

Ed

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jamesfl

The only thing I liked was the preprinted marketing letters. Detail about roof failures etc.

I disliked the "group" theory discussed above, as well as the strictly scripted sales pitch(2 hours long).

I think you could make your own marketing letters for far less than the cost of membership in RSI.


James

Ed the Roofer

Thats what is sounded like to me, but I was willing to allow the possibility of them offering something of much more substance that would make a 1/2 price version of the membership more worthwhile.

Ed

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apehangeralfy

I'm active in the FRSA (Florida Roofing and Sheetmetal Assn.). It is a great group of people and does a lot of good for the industry.

We are taking the lead in disaster preparedness, the state is supportive of our goals, to be able to work together to protect lives and property in the case of an event. I strongly encourage every Roofing professional in Fl to join and get involved.

There are affiliate origination's broken down by regions so there is a local meeting near you, if you need contact info let my know. Our local affiliate is the VFRSA (Volusia and Flagler Counties Roofing and Sheetmetal Assn.) in which I am the currant VP of.

The next meeting Feb 18 is about Workers Comp and the proposed 6.5% increase and the possibility of another 10% on top of that. This has to do with more than just roofing so we've invited the Home Builders Assn. Pres. to attend and other organizations. The meeting is at Red Lobster monthly, $20 covers the meeting and diner... Last month we did a CE Credit on tile hip and ridge attachment. I think it's a good way to give some back to the trade that gives to me....

Alfy

OUTLAW

I joined Prosult when I changed from being stictly new construction to in-home sales.

They have helped me a lot. It has been well worth my investment. The guy that runs it can come off as being a little bit brash, but all of his advise has been spot on.

At the meetings everybody's numbers for the year are on the table. So there ain't no B.S. The last day you set goals for next year and you are held accountable for them.

They have a bulletin board on-line for the members. You don't see the fighting and insulting going on there becuase you have to meet with these people.

To sum it up I would say that there is just so much knowlege in the groups and everybody really seems to care. I have learn more in a short period of time than most guys learn in decades on their own.

Grumpy

I considered joining Monroe, but what I learned is that he's so specialized in what he's doing he is closed off to doing it any other way. I don't like his way of doing it and after speaking with him on the phone I picked up pretty quick that's he's cocky and arrogant, and I can see how you were made to feel like a black sheep. He didn't want to help me achieve my goals, he wanted to set new goals for me to achieve and then help me achieve them his way.

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Grumpy

Who says the economy is tough? Stop listening to the hype.

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serrano

Grumpy,when you hire a consultant he is there to tell you the things you need to hear,not what you want to hear.If you look long enough you will find a consultant to work with that will say"Great" to all of your ideas.The diifference is Monroe and your board of directors helps you step back,fix some of the existing problems,help you figure out if the original goals are realistic,then help you build a sustainable long term plan for success.If YOU cannot check your ego at the door it will not work for you.It is like going to therapy for your biz.

I was at the meeting with Jack.If you come to a meeting and tell us that you have low ball compitition,want to move into new market area to expand,with aplan on how you are going to sell your way out of dispair by doing more estimates but not focus raising prices or on closing higher %,and everyone in the room,not 1, not 1/2, everyone in the room questions your strategy you should think twice about it.Jack was combative and didnt hear word one.After that daily session was over he packed that evening and left woith 2 days left.He wanted confirmation that he was correct,not help in finding out if his goals were correct.

OUTLAW

Maybe things have changed since I joined. I see a lot of different types of roofing companies with all different structures.
I know that the prosult model is an owner-driven business, but I see companies there with large sales staffs and multiple sub crews.

Ed the Roofer

Serrano,

Please post an Introduction thread.

Your name seems familiar. Either from a good website I saw, or from a CCN members list, or elsewhere on another forum.

Where was that Prosult meeting you and Jack were at together?

Ed

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