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roofing bids · 04-20-2009, 12:51 AM

sorry

OUTLAW · 04-20-2009, 08:52 AM

sounds like another scam to get a roofers money

no thanks!

Grumpy · 04-20-2009, 09:00 AM

How many roofers are actually bidding the jobs? Really to me it sounds like a reverse auction.

How does a building or home owner know what materials they want, or need for that matter? They need a professional roofer to educate them on their options, and where other unscrupulous hacks may try and cheat them. There needs to be a meeting of the minds before a bid can be put together or else the bidder is just guessing and throwing numbers out there.

I've seen this type of system with computer programmers, web designers, etc... and I will tell you the lowest bidder usually wins.

Who would take the pictures, or would they be satellite and aerial photos? If they are satellite and aerial, then why can't we take the pics ourselves? I mean we all here have the internet already.

Now I will say this sounds like a very clever way to be a prime contractor and have sub contractors working for you with no liability to yourself. for example you do the advertising as a referral company, go out measure, photograph and broadcast the info to the 20 roofers or wht ever. Then the roofers bid on it, you toss on your markup, provide the bids to the customer and get paid on both ends. Once by all the roofers in your network and once by the buyer when they choose to buy. Sounds interesting from that point of view.

Slyfox · 04-20-2009, 09:05 AM

They all start out offering the same promises.
When times get tight, they do the same as everyone else,
which is to except anyone willing to pay a monthly fee into the bidding process or simply set up kick backs by giving certain contractors first access.
It's a good concept, but not a new one.

user182 · 04-20-2009, 10:15 AM

I get the feeling that you are promoting your business here.

There may be some contractors out there that would want your service but I am not one of them.

I have never tried to be a low bidder and in my opinion only a fool would try to get jobs by having a low price.

There are lots of contractors that claim to be licensed and insured and they are still low ball bidders.

Any prospect that is focused primarily on price is not a prospect that I would want to spend my time chasing after.

Ed the Roofer · 04-20-2009, 12:52 PM

What is the name of your company and the website address of this service that you are referring to, so we can check it out?

Is is Local, Regional or National?

It sounds like something that uses the aerial or plane or satellite imagery for the measurements and is now soliciting to get roofs bid out amongst it's paid membership.

How many would get the information?

What subsidiary or affiliates would also have access to the information second hand?

Ed

roofing bids · 04-20-2009, 03:14 PM

i am gone

Ed the Roofer · 04-20-2009, 10:20 PM

So, you are going to employ a Nation-Wide Team of canvassers and roof estimators to supply the necessary information to the end user clints that subscribe?

If someone is savvy enough to get a home owner to respond to that request, without it being a hail damaged area and the canvasser also knows how to Properly measure a roof, what would prevent the individual from passing on that lead to his buddy who owns a roofing company?

By the time your subscribed members get wind of the lead, the "Buddy" will have already completed the roof job.

Ed

04-20-2009, 12:51 AM	#1
roofing bids Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2	roofing bids sorry Last edited by roofing bids; 04-21-2009 at 07:08 PM.

04-20-2009, 08:52 AM	#2
OUTLAW Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: VIRGINIA Posts: 167	sounds like another scam to get a roofers money no thanks! __________________ http://www.ClarkRoofingAndSiding.com

04-20-2009, 09:00 AM	#3
Grumpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 727	How many roofers are actually bidding the jobs? Really to me it sounds like a reverse auction. How does a building or home owner know what materials they want, or need for that matter? They need a professional roofer to educate them on their options, and where other unscrupulous hacks may try and cheat them. There needs to be a meeting of the minds before a bid can be put together or else the bidder is just guessing and throwing numbers out there. I've seen this type of system with computer programmers, web designers, etc... and I will tell you the lowest bidder usually wins. Who would take the pictures, or would they be satellite and aerial photos? If they are satellite and aerial, then why can't we take the pics ourselves? I mean we all here have the internet already. Now I will say this sounds like a very clever way to be a prime contractor and have sub contractors working for you with no liability to yourself. for example you do the advertising as a referral company, go out measure, photograph and broadcast the info to the 20 roofers or wht ever. Then the roofers bid on it, you toss on your markup, provide the bids to the customer and get paid on both ends. Once by all the roofers in your network and once by the buyer when they choose to buy. Sounds interesting from that point of view. __________________ -Grumpy Chicago Gutters Chicago Roofing

04-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#4
Slyfox Residential Roofer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Struthers, Ohio Posts: 83	They all start out offering the same promises. When times get tight, they do the same as everyone else, which is to except anyone willing to pay a monthly fee into the bidding process or simply set up kick backs by giving certain contractors first access. It's a good concept, but not a new one. __________________ God Fearing, Husband/Father, US American, Pool Shooting Roofer Fox Roofing - Since 1994

04-20-2009, 12:52 PM	#6
Ed the Roofer Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 584	What is the name of your company and the website address of this service that you are referring to, so we can check it out? Is is Local, Regional or National? It sounds like something that uses the aerial or plane or satellite imagery for the measurements and is now soliciting to get roofs bid out amongst it's paid membership. How many would get the information? What subsidiary or affiliates would also have access to the information second hand? Ed __________________ Just Wait A Minute, I Will Be Right Back With A Link For That. http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

04-20-2009, 10:15 AM	#5
user182 user182 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 313	I get the feeling that you are promoting your business here. There may be some contractors out there that would want your service but I am not one of them. I have never tried to be a low bidder and in my opinion only a fool would try to get jobs by having a low price. There are lots of contractors that claim to be licensed and insured and they are still low ball bidders. Any prospect that is focused primarily on price is not a prospect that I would want to spend my time chasing after.

04-20-2009, 03:14 PM	#7
roofing bids Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2	i am gone Last edited by roofing bids; 04-21-2009 at 07:09 PM.

04-20-2009, 10:20 PM	#8
Ed the Roofer Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 584	So, you are going to employ a Nation-Wide Team of canvassers and roof estimators to supply the necessary information to the end user clints that subscribe? If someone is savvy enough to get a home owner to respond to that request, without it being a hail damaged area and the canvasser also knows how to Properly measure a roof, what would prevent the individual from passing on that lead to his buddy who owns a roofing company? By the time your subscribed members get wind of the lead, the "Buddy" will have already completed the roof job. Ed __________________ Just Wait A Minute, I Will Be Right Back With A Link For That. http://www.rightwayroofingcompany.com/ www.rightwayroofingcompany.com Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

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