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Old 02-11-2009, 10:21 PM   #1
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What can you add on to a Roofing job to make it bigger?

I wonder how much more money we could make if we were prepared to add more on to the sale?

Some of this stuff I’m prepared to sell but I could probably do more to increase the size of the average transaction.

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Old 02-12-2009, 07:39 AM   #2
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Don't forget the obvious shingle upgrades. Solar fan upgrades hit pretty well for me last year.
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Don't forget the obvious shingle upgrades. Solar fan upgrades hit pretty well for me last year.
I never used one of those Solar PAV's. How much do they cost and which brand and cfm do you use most?

Do you tack on any more than $ 100.00 to install one?

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Ed I try to make $100 gross profit on a fan installation (if we are doing it with the roof), I'll typically pay the subs $25 to R&R a fan. If I recall a solar fan from Home Depot, which is GAF, was $197. However the SAME fan at any supplier would cost at least $350. LOL I bet they just pick them up from Home Depot. I think it's a 550 CFM fan, off the top of my head.

Last year we bought every solar fan available in our area from the Home Depots. I think 5 in one week. When ever I see a attic fan I try to promote solar. We don't do electrical since we are not licensed nor insured for electrical, therefore I drop the little hint that any ROOFER willing to make the electrical connection is not a qualified electrician and could burn the house down and is also breaking the law. It gets there wheels turning when I put it like that.

I also explain that a qualified and licensed electrician would have to charge $300 just to come make the electrical connection that we legally can not make, and that by installing the solar fan they are really saving $200 upfront and hundreds more over the life of the fan.

I then go on to say that the solar fans do require about $100 more upfront investment, however there is never any electricity being used... and while a hard wired attic fan turns on and off and on and off, the solar fan is ALWAYS on when the sun is shining.

Lastly I also say, "I'm willing to bet nobody else brought this up, did they?" setting myself apart and putting me on top of the pile of competitors, planing the seed of doubt. Also mentioning alot of guys will install the fan, but not make the connection, and not tell you and then all you have is a large expensive mushroom vent on the roof.
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Ed I try to make $100 gross profit on a fan installation (if we are doing it with the roof), I'll typically pay the subs $25 to R&R a fan. If I recall a solar fan from Home Depot, which is GAF, was $197. However the SAME fan at any supplier would cost at least $350. LOL I bet they just pick them up from Home Depot. I think it's a 550 CFM fan, off the top of my head.

Last year we bought every solar fan available in our area from the Home Depots. I think 5 in one week. When ever I see a attic fan I try to promote solar. We don't do electrical since we are not licensed nor insured for electrical, therefore I drop the little hint that any ROOFER willing to make the electrical connection is not a qualified electrician and could burn the house down and is also breaking the law. It gets there wheels turning when I put it like that.

I also explain that a qualified and licensed electrician would have to charge $300 just to come make the electrical connection that we legally can not make, and that by installing the solar fan they are really saving $200 upfront and hundreds more over the life of the fan.

I then go on to say that the solar fans do require about $100 more upfront investment, however there is never any electricity being used... and while a hard wired attic fan turns on and off and on and off, the solar fan is ALWAYS on when the sun is shining.

Lastly I also say, "I'm willing to bet nobody else brought this up, did they?" setting myself apart and putting me on top of the pile of competitors, planing the seed of doubt. Also mentioning alot of guys will install the fan, but not make the connection, and not tell you and then all you have is a large expensive mushroom vent on the roof.
I am not very comfortable relying on a solar powered vent because the warranty is only for 5 years. IF you are counting on that motor to properly vent the attic what happens when it wears out?

I would feel comfortable using it on a garage because there isn’t much humidity in there.

Last year I offered a free solar powered vent as a special offer in a mailing that I sent out as a follow up to unsold leads. IT did not generate any interest.

The material cost is about $121 for a power vent by Lamanco and about $410 for a solar powered vent made by AirVent.

I don’t go shopping at Home Depot very often so I don’t know what is available.

As far as electrical work goes you should not even be disconnecting an old power vent even if you are installing a solar power vent. What are you gong to do hire an electrician just to come out and remove an old vent?
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Don't forget the obvious shingle upgrades. Solar fan upgrades hit pretty well for me last year.
How many shingle options do calculate a price for prior to going in for the presentation?

Typically I figure a price for a 30 year and a lifetime shingle, however I would like to start figuring a price for something high end like synthetic slate, but I have not yet made it part of my routine.
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Certainteed has info on good, better, best selling. I would suggest contacting your sales rep and asking for this info. It can be effective, but there are certain rules to follow.
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I have been gathering some info on a "green" line of products. I reciaved a smaple pack on enviroshakes. www.enviroshake.com these are beautiful.. i would like to fine a recycled shingle that wouldent be too much to have drop shipped.
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I went to Home Depot today and they have the solar vent by GAF for $197 that’s about $210 less than what it would cost to by one from my supplier made by AirVent.

They had electric ones for around $87 compared to $120 from my supplier.

Maybe I should price everything from Home Depot or Lowes; I could probably get better prices.

The funny thing about it is my suppliers deliver for them; I wonder what kind of discount they are giving to Home Depot or Lowes.
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Same here Jack. Supplier tried to charge me almost $16 per for shingleventII. And that was for pallet orders. I went to Lowes and it was $9.99.

I found that they like to screw people on the accesories
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