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Old 07-13-2010, 11:50 PM   #11
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They don't care. Every job I've lost to a storm chaser I have driven by to see ALL the things I said not to do, done. Like using mushroom vents in place of a kitchen vent. Like not increasing the ventilation even though the existing roof doesn't have enough and insurance would pay for code upgrades and vents are a code upgrade. Like using ridge vent on a ridge too short... all the things I told customers that was wrong with their roof got repeated, but hey they got a free roof.

Now the question I pose is, who's going to honor the warranty when the storm chaser is no longer in state because he's chasing the next storm? That free roof isn't free anymore when they have to pay me to clean up all the mistakes.


I'm so fed up, I'm not doing any storm work unless it's a past customer or a referral. If I see another insurance estimate I am going to blow my brains out. It's triple the work if I were just to be doing the job for the customer, not the customer and insurance company...


And still waiting to be paid on a few jobs, the contract says payment upon completion and when the job was done the customer says they will send money when the insurance company sends them payment. WTF?! That wasn't the agreement. Don't buy a friggin roof if you can't afford it and damnit don't change the terms of our contract half way through the job. My final grips is most of the roofs I have seen have very very little hail damage, it's just SCUM BAG home owners scamming their insurance companies for a free roof. I WANT NO PART OF IT!
Not all storm chasing companies offer people a free roof. Companies that offer people a free roof, should close shop and get into a different line of business. If you give someone a free roof, you make pennies.

Who is to say what hail damage is? I have read many different publications from insurance companies, engineering companies and roofing companies. There is extemely limited studies done on all the variables. There needs to be thousands of roofs, in different climates, different types of roofs, wind speed of hail, size of hail, hardness of hail and on and on and on. If the studies that were done on hails effects on roofs, were a medicine instead of roofs. I would not take that medicine, because who knows what it would do to you.


Okay, now lets talk about warranties. If a storm chasing roofing company has been in business for decades and they have a good BB rating, then they must be taking care of the warranty. Often, time storm chasers will use local roof installers to do the work so, they will get them to fix the any problems. Many storm chasers partner with local storm chasers and get them to warranty it in exchange for the other storm to warranty the work if they are working in the other area later. Also, you can spend the money to send your best crew to go and fix any problems.

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Old 07-14-2010, 01:45 PM   #12
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The babbling brook of bull chit continues.
Why don't you come watch me sell and how I tell people they must pay their deductible, then maybe you'll shut up.
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Why don't you come watch me sell and how I tell people they must pay their deductible, then maybe you'll shut up.
You're just selling on price. That's not hard. So what they pay their deductable... I'm impressed. (sarcastic)

Go sell a premium roofing system, when the insurance isn't involved, and you are 20% higher than your compitition, and I'll be impressed. Until then, please consider another profession.


You're now ignored since this has become childish and discussing roofing or business with a storm chaser is not to my benefit.
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You're just selling on price. That's not hard. So what they pay their deductable... I'm impressed. (sarcastic)

Go sell a premium roofing system, when the insurance isn't involved, and you are 20% higher than your compitition, and I'll be impressed. Until then, please consider another profession.


You're now ignored since this has become childish and discussing roofing or business with a storm chaser is not to my benefit.
Try selling a regular roof at 50% higher than the competition all the time. Since, the beginning of this month I have been making between 4,000 to 7,000 profit on all of my jobs and these are small roofs 20 to 25 squares. I have a few larger roofs that I am making 10,000 to 18,000 profit on.

My closest competition is making almost half the profit on the jobs. These jobs are to code and nothing more. Try doing that. The jobs that are premium roofs, as you say, well I'm making even more profit on those. Have you ever made a few million in profit in less than 12 months? I can't blame you, its not your fault you just don't understand. I'm not some redneck roofer, that dropped out of high school. I'm a business man who learned about roofing.

If you don't want to learn thats fine.
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Get your facts straight - our agreements strictly state that we do work for "insurance proceeds only, based on a cost determined by the insurance company." We are not snooping around peoples houses, looking for old people with walkers. Most of my clients are 30-50 years old. The 83 year old couple who just got their roof replaced did not take a DIME out of their pockets. Get educated.
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Insuranceroofer - 10 bucks says Grumpy will be back to act juvenile. It is not your fault he cannnot appreciate the benefits of doing insurance work, or has the mental capacity to complete the required paperwork to process the claims....
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My "storm chasing" company does over 30 million a year - over 60% of it is retail, not insurance claims. My customer base is 70% insurance and 30% retail - most of it in the commercial sector. It is called diversification and building revenues...
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Builsing revenues is all fine and dandy, but meaningless. It's easy to do a job for cheap. The point of business has nothing to do with revenues, but with profit, and it's hard to build profit with insurance work. Yes it can be done, but it's alot of extra work, stress, arguments with adjusters, paper work, paper work, paper work.

I definetly have the metal capacity. Paper work and organization are some of my strong points. The point is however, I can close a retail sale with less upfront paper work and stress and have higher return on my investment of time. So less work, more money.... Hmmm who has the lesser metal capacity?

Volume is meaningless, why do two jobs to achieve $1,000 profit? I'd rather do one job for that. Just throwing numbers out there, the point is there is very little margin in insurance work. More work + less money = not smart.
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Get your facts straight - our agreements strictly state that we do work for "insurance proceeds only, based on a cost determined by the insurance company."
Hahahahah that's damned funny man. You are working for what some one else says you are worth. You need to get educated. Nobody determines my costs but me. You probably read in the other threat where you replied that the guy was doing work for $220 a square. That's working for a loss as far as I am concerned, and about what I see some insurance companies offering.
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If he is from Conneticut Grumpy I doubt very much he works for $250 per square. Its more like $450 to $650 in this part of the country. I wouldnt even do an overlay on a ranch for $250.

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