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Old 02-26-2010, 03:58 AM   #1
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We do Shingle roofs over here, tho not very much. The weather here is a bit too blowy for them I think, but I was wondering-How long does a Shingle roof properly fixed last for? I did one over 20 years ago & its still fine, a lot to do with the pitch I think-about 35 degrees
When you get a Tile/Slate roof here-you would reasonably expect it to last 50 years for Roof tiles & possibly 80-100 years for slate & I personally know that my Torch -On modified Bitumen Roofs will last at least 25 years.
Is the heat in Summer a factor on Shingle roofs not lasting as long in US, as it seems to me they get torn off regularly.

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In southern states I have seen 12 year old 3-tab shingle roofs "properly installed" fail due to the blistering heat.
In northern states I have seen them fail in the same time frame due to blistering cold.

I live in the mid-west "Ohio" and I can show you thousands of squares of 3-tabs that I installed in the 1980's that are still intact today.

The weather, wooded area or open fields and slope of pitch absolutely make a difference.
We have numerous slate roofs in my area installed in the late 1800's and early 1900's that are still intact "minus a few repairs" and holding the weather out, but the use of slate is very rare in my area and has been since the 1930's - 1940's. Tile is extremely rare in my area.

A quality shingle job "in my area" will run you $200.00 per square "new construction" for the underlayment, venting, flashing's, shingles and that's for both material & labor.
Slate, $350.00 - $450.00. (depending on tru slate or fake)
Tile, runs $100.00 plus higher than slate on average.

I guess people just want to spend less now.
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Sly you do just new construction?
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In southern states I have seen 12 year old 3-tab shingle roofs "properly installed" fail due to the blistering heat.
In northern states I have seen them fail in the same time frame due to blistering cold.

I live in the mid-west "Ohio" and I can show you thousands of squares of 3-tabs that I installed in the 1980's that are still intact today.

The weather, wooded area or open fields and slope of pitch absolutely make a difference.
We have numerous slate roofs in my area installed in the late 1800's and early 1900's that are still intact "minus a few repairs" and holding the weather out, but the use of slate is very rare in my area and has been since the 1930's - 1940's. Tile is extremely rare in my area.

A quality shingle job "in my area" will run you $200.00 per square "new construction" for the underlayment, venting, flashing's, shingles and that's for both material & labor.
Slate, $350.00 - $450.00. (depending on tru slate or fake)
Tile, runs $100.00 plus higher than slate on average.

I guess people just want to spend less now.
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I think I will be emigrating to the states if Roof Tiling is coming in at $450-550 per sq(yds in US - mts Europe) To Supply & fix breather membrane, counters, batons, load & tile, clipping all in a diagonal pattern & ridging & finishing roof-a typical house size would be around 100m2 materials about £1500 2 days labour costs £600, scaffolding £400, skips £300 & I would receive approx £2500 for 2 days work less tax, roughly £6000 all in- not bad but in your area that would be worth £12500.Again no-one wants it as its so expensive.I can buy lower grade roof tiles at £700 per thousand , decent for £750-£800 & top quality for £900-1000!
How much are roof tiles in the US. Redland are very good tiles over here
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Sly you do just new construction?
No, I do both new and old work.
On a normal year new construction accounts for the majority of my work tho.
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I think I will be emigrating to the states if Roof Tiling is coming in at $450-550 per sq(yds in US - mts Europe) To Supply & fix breather membrane, counters, batons, load & tile, clipping all in a diagonal pattern & ridging & finishing roof-a typical house size would be around 100m2 materials about £1500 2 days labour costs £600, scaffolding £400, skips £300 & I would receive approx £2500 for 2 days work less tax, roughly £6000 all in- not bad but in your area that would be worth £12500.Again no-one wants it as its so expensive.I can buy lower grade roof tiles at £700 per thousand , decent for £750-£800 & top quality for £900-1000!
How much are roof tiles in the US. Redland are very good tiles over here
The prices I put for slate and tile was actually an oops,
the price would actually be $200.00 - $300.00 higher for composite slate/tile and higher than that for the real deal.
All of my experience with tile/slate has come from new construction work with the general contractor supplying materials and me charging/supplying labor only.

I do not have enough experience with tile or slate to give a qualified opinion on which is best.
The only real tile I ever installed was clay, not sure of the manufacturer other than it was from Mexico.

Edited to add: Slate/Tile is so rare in my area that when I called the 3 main roofing material stores here in my area not one stocks real or composite (special order).
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I guess the BS posts on these forums will truly never end.
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I guess the BS posts on these forums will truly never end.
"even we are into roofing business and the best roofing services for our customers . "
"Roof shingles are a roof covering consisting of individual overlapping elements. These elements are normally flat rectangular shapes that are laid in rows without the side edges overlapping, a single layer is used to ensure a water-resistant result. Shingles are laid from the bottom edge of the roof up, with the bottom edge of each row overlapping the previous row by about one third its length. Historically, at the roof ridge there was a cap consisting of copper or lead sheeting which in modern times has been substituted by shingles with a plastic underlay."

Non roofers. Some kinda scam I believe. It's obvious the posts are unrelated to roofing and the so called roofing link probably leads to some drive-by virus site. I'd like to warn everbody not to touch it!
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What type of composite shingles do they have in the UK ?


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