Roofing Design Ideas & Shortfalls

TOMROD

I'm a GAF New Product Designer.

If you have a new product idea (shingle, tool, etc) or just want to vent about current design shortfall(s), please post here.

Ed the Roofer

If we had a product design, what assistance could you provide?

Do you need a prototype or just drawings and how could someone be sure to protect their intellectual rights for the potential marketability of that product?

Ed

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Grumpy

What are my royalties?

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TOMROD

I'm the guy that can make new products a reality.

You can protect you new idea by submitting an invention disclosure and apply for a provisional application - it can run you $500+ in legal fees. Check out this link: http://www.patentapplications.net/disclosure/index.html

Or you can submit your idea to me (online or offline) either by just giving me a description or sending me a drawing. If I think it's a marketable idea, i'll speak with the higher-beings to see how we can proceed.

I'm not in the business if stealing ideas..i'm in the business of making new, innovative roofing products. I don't get royalties...if i patent a new product, I get a small bonus check (trust me small). I can work with you individually to work out compensation for any new ideas you share.

Hope you all can trust me...

Here is my address to submit ideas offline:

GAF Material Corp
R&D Lab bld 2-1
1361 Alps Road
Wayne, NJ 07470
Attn: Tommy Rodrigues

MJW

There are so many inferiority's in the Timberlines that I don't know where to start.

GAF underlayments are very good (shingle mate, and I&W), but the shingles are just not up to par with the other brands.

I have read that there is a big difference in their quality in different parts of the country. GAF hasn't had a good shingle up here that I can remember. The newer Timberlines may be updated, but they are so soft at 55 degrees that they just smear on the roof.
Sorry to say, but I'm not impressed. Although GAF isn't the only company I will gripe about........

TOMROD

You mean 155 degrees, right?

MJW

Yesterday it was 55-60 degrees and sunny. We had to be very careful walking up the roof to put the ridge cap on. It seems that alot of these newer shingles are thinner, weaker, and cheaper.....(oh, but more expensive)

Ed the Roofer

I am interested in discussing something further, but I need an ironclad Confidentiality Agreement Form in place first, prior to any discussions taking place.

Ed

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Roof Estimates, Roof Repairs, Roofers, Roof Leak Help, Elgin, Carpentersville, East Dundee, West Dundee, Sleepy Hollow, Algonquin, South Elgin, Huntley, Lake In The Hills, Illinois

buildpinnacle

Ironically, in a lot of the roofing contractors who post here seem to use CT products. I have to assume that there are large differences in the quality of product from certain factories. Personally, we have been using GAF products both commercial low slope and steep slope for well over 10 years and I have never had a problem. Maybe its the area. You can't buy any CT products locally where I am at. They just don't have a presence in our market. Most guys around here view it as an inferior product. I'm not exactly sure why, that's just the way it is. GAF and Tamko have this market cornered and have for years. OC is making ground, but well behind.

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Slyfox

In my area, Gaf/Elk and Tamko are the heavier sales, with OC and Certainteed a strong second than Atlas and IKO.

Except in the big box stores, Lowes, Carter Lumber, 84 Lumber, etc.,
in those type stores/lumber yards you find OC on top than Gaf a strong second and very few of any others in stock.

The only pet peeve I have with Gaf/Elk is the paper wrappers, save the recycled paper for offices, schools, etc., and recycle some of the tons of waste plastics we have and wrap the shingles in it.

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