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terry koz

what is a fair price for labor on a single shingle tear off 30sq walk on easy acess roof chicago il.

Grumpy

YOu're not going to get an answer of any quality by asking a question like that. If you would like an esitimate from a competant licensed roofing contractor call my office at 847-729-3496

If you are a contractor thinking of doing a side roof job... If you are not a licensed roofing contractor you should not be roofing in the state of IL. If you were lciensed you'd probably know what the job should cost.

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terry koz

hey grumpy, i am licensed carpenter contractor doing a friend a favor. but thank you!

Grumpy

Then you're breaking the law because Illinois requires a state ROOFING license to legally install roofs.

What municipality issued your carpentry license, as there is no state carpentry license that I am aware of?

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terry koz

no wonder they call you dumpy i mean grumpy your right I have to go every town or city yearly to purchase a license. I am sure your bartender appreciates the extra time You have with a license to stumble statewide. Does il. require an 8th. grade education for a roofing license? thanks again for making me smile today grumpy

Grumpy

Thanks for showing us your level of intelligence, Terry. Perhaps next time you want to insult someone else’s intelligence you'll consider using proper capitalization and punctuation. Now I know I am not known for my typing skills, however I make it a point to proof read when I am going to call someone else’s competency into play, I certainly won’t leave mine to question.

Do me a favor and give "your friend" the phone number to a real roofer so he can call someone to fix your mistakes. We make ALOT of money following guys like you around. Maybe you want to check out this thread… http://www.roofingtalk.com/f2/doesnt-look-right-but-i-cant-quite-put-my-finger-355/ Probably installed by a city licensed carpenter LOL

Those city licenses are a joke. Anyone with $35 can buy one. I have them too. They are just another way for the municipalities to get their hands in your wallet. What qualifies to you to be a ROOFER, Mr. Carpenter? A city CARPENTRY license?


By the way the answer to your question is: Just enough money for beer, cigarettes and a cheese burger. That seems to be the going rate for a side job Bob such as yourself.

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LA_nailer

thumbs up to grumpy !!

terry koz

grump yesterday a smile today a laugh. your so funny,good news i picked up a couple lay downs while taking measurements. an il.roofing license is no assurance of good work, a tard can get a qualified party to take the test which is no measure of iq. he can then bus in his playmates.I hope you have a big bus grump because i plan on roofing the USA.please join me for a cheesburger and a beer.thanks again little guy!

Grumpy

If you're so good why not have a license? Why break the law? Why be a hack? Even if you do good work, if you are working outside of the law you ARE a hack. Who's getting your permits? The home owners? Why circumvent the system? The system is there to protect the consumer from hacks. Sure it's not fool proof, but it helps. The license is not an assurance of good work, by no means, however the lack of a license is almost an assurance of poor work. Afterall if you were good, wouldn't you be licensed.

Do you even have roofing insurance? No I bet you have carpentry insurance. I hope you don't get hurt when you're on that roof, your insurance isn't goign to cover you or your employees for breaking the law. That's insurance fraud too buddy.

Too many guys with a ladder and a hammer think they are a roofer. Roofing is a specialized trade. Sure anyone can shingle. The only difference between a seasoned shingler and a novice is speed. However roofing is more than shingling. It's knowing underlayment detail, valley detail, and various flashing details, and ventilation requirements. These are the parts that will determine the roof's quality but novices all to often fail to get right.

The difference between a god roofer and a bad roofer is not usually apparent on day one. It's usually 4 or 5 years down the road when the mistakes start to become a problem.


BTW you're only laughing at yourself, bud. Nothing I am saying is funny. Any consumer coming into this forum reading this should be fearful of hiring an unlicensed contractor to work on their property. The licensing is there to protect you. If the contractor is soooo good, why is he not licensed in the trade he is operating? Why do you think there is a license requirement for roofing? Roofing protects your building and everything within it. One mistake can cost you thousands of dollars in repairs.

Would you hire an unlicensed plumber? The unlicensed handy man toying with your plumbing can flood your house. Would you hire an unlicensed electrician? That trunk slammer can burn down your house and kill your family.

Food for thought... There are ONLY 3 licensed trades in the state of Illinois. Roofing, Plumbing and Electrician. Yeah, those are the important trades where if you get it wrong BAD things happen.

Last comment... I only wish that being an unlicensed hack were a felony, punishable with jail time, in Illinois like it is in Florida. Hacks who operate within our trade, but are too lazy or too stupid to seek out a license are nothing more than a detriment to our fine trade.

Leave the ROOFING to the ROOFERS.

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terry koz

Dear Grumpy, Just for you I downloaded the license info packet and I will have my girl fill it out. FYI my insurance does cover all my guys from setting the steel to putting the last piece of ridge on. IN better times I always sub-contracted the ROOFING,but if I have to choose between letting them sit or have them shingle,they shingle. My blueprints dont give the ROOFERS any choice for proper ventilation,or underlayment. I cut it all in for them per specs, or my judgement. Personally I feel all trades including ROOFERS should be professonaly schooled,and serve an apprenticeship.Not just buy a bond, insurance,and a license. In my experience, a carpenter who can cut a roof, install it, and sheet it, has no problem cutting in a valley. Thanks for your concern about who should be a felon. Statistically, I bet there are more roofers in prison then carpenters.
Terry