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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
Dave, Don't you start your stepped flashing as a straight piece of metal?
As I said I do my flashings very much the same as you, although we don't usually use lead. We'd first start with a flashing metal that is completely straight. We'd bend a hem on the bottom, then give that hem a kick out. Then I'd hold the straight mtal up to the chimney/wall and mark the mortar joints on the metal. from that point I'd cut out the steps with tin snips and make the folds on each step with a hand seamer to tuck into the brick... but it still starts with a straight piece of metal. |
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing BrakeQuote:
With that company philosphy, you might know about flashing a chimney but not about roofing. Once again, another "roofer" putting false ideas and concerns into a homeowners head. |
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
What is false about it. The shingles could blow off and the roof would not leak.
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
Hi Bam Bam, For "A guy trying to learn all I can", you might try paying attention. As for as "A" Water Tight Roofing Co., It carries a Licensed Residential Builders License, we are Accredeted members of the Better Business Bureau which means in 20 years of service we have never had a bad report filed against us, We own two Patents for the Chimney Flashing Brake, we have 4 Utility Applications on file pending with the USPTO. "A" Water Tight Roofing Co. GROSSES over $240,000.00 per. year.
I make more money by accident than you do on purpose. What are your credentials Bam Bam, roofing opperations manager? Does that mean you are a forman? What is the name of your roofing Co.? What type of contractors license do you cary? What have you done to improve the world? This forum seems to be a "clique" one guy says one thing derogitory and the rest of you get on board and stroke him with your best wit. Some of you see things for what they are. Like it, don't like it, take it or leave it, without tearing it apart to try and make themselves feel better. As for you English if we worked in your area you would not have to worry about being run out of town, you would be standing in a soupe line wondering where all the work went.
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
I wonder why the caps are on top of the term flashing on that bay window. Backwards.
I don't see any tinner's wings on the chimneys either. You should only cut the mortar. Not the brick. That sticks out like a sore thumb, and should be reserved for flat roofs, or term flashing. |
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
Says Who? Were is it writen that you have to make your cut only in the mortar joint? The NRCA says it is an accepted practice. I forgot, you know more than the National Roofing Contractors Association. It seems that a lot of you guyes are smarter than the NRCA. Amazing!
Keep stroking each other eventually you will get a _ _ T. Even a blind squirl gets a nut sometimes.
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
Its not us thats trying to sell your product its you!, and who do you think would be buying your product....? that would be us!, try to take the criticism positively, if we point out a few things you dont like and you return with 'that we dont do it right'
how are you going to sell this product? My friend you need us more than we need you. Cheers Dave P.S. Light the touch paper Dave and stand back lol |
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
OH and i love soup!
Cheers Dave |
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Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake
Actually FlashMaster my title would be Operations Manager / Partner / Vice President. I just made it more simple for you to understand because most people understand that an Operations Manager is highly involved in the business. The majority owner of the company prefers not to have the company name mentioned on a forum available for the whole internet to see for instances like this when there are shouting arguments.
I dont believe in the scam of paying into the BBB so we arent. You do know that you can have as many complaints against you as possible and they will still gladly take your money, right? We are fully licensed and insured. We are certified installers of Gaf/Elk and Certainteed. We are members of NARI and the NCRA. We are certified by the Vinyl Siding Institute as well as Air Vent Corportation. In our first year in business we did more than double your 240,000 a year gross sales but, we arent talking numbers as there is no point to it. There are times when I flash a chimney like you do as well. All I was pointing out is that you arent very business savvy to offer a 30 year warranty especially if you Ice And Water the whole deck without proper ventilation. Sooner or later that is going to catch up to you and it will get you in trouble. I have been posting on other forums for awhile, so yes, I am always trying to learn all I can. There is always something new, especially since I am not even in my 30's yet I have learned good business and technique advice from guys with much more experience. Also, the only thing Ive really done to improve the world I guess would be how far out of my way I go to help people out when they need it. I have nothing to say bad about your break and congradulations on all the patents and all the progess youve made with it. Also, English Roofer does a lot of high end slate work. That means he wouldn't be in the soup line as very few people have the skills to accomplish what he does. You guys would be in two different neighborhoods. That is all. |
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Have'nt you ever offered the home owner all ice shield on a 6/12 or lower pitch roof job? It is a selling point most roofers will not use because they have to absorb some of the differanse in cost. With a good presentation, show the homeowner a piece of Ice Shield and a piece of felt. (I keep a piece of Ice Shield on my dash all summer, this way it stays hot & tacky) Tear the felt in front of them then show them the Ice Shield, pull the backing off and let them feel how tacky it is. (Leave a samples with them). "Now imagine your whole roof covered with this". "You only do this once every thirty years, let us do it right the first time". Explain the cost differance between Ice Shield and felt, and tell them you will submitt two proposals for them to look over. One with felt and one with all Ice Shield. When the homeowner sees that your # for felt are in line with the rest of their estimates they will understand the price differance is in the better material cost. Our philosophy is to provide the home owner the best roof their money can buy. What do you see wrong with that?
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