Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-06-2010, 03:45 PM   #21
Senior Member
 
Grumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,574
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Dave, Don't you start your stepped flashing as a straight piece of metal?

As I said I do my flashings very much the same as you, although we don't usually use lead. We'd first start with a flashing metal that is completely straight. We'd bend a hem on the bottom, then give that hem a kick out. Then I'd hold the straight mtal up to the chimney/wall and mark the mortar joints on the metal. from that point I'd cut out the steps with tin snips and make the folds on each step with a hand seamer to tuck into the brick... but it still starts with a straight piece of metal.

__________________
-Grumpy
Chicago Gutters Chicago Roofing
Grumpy is offline  
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 01-06-2010, 07:13 PM   #22
Junior Member
 
BamBamm5144's Avatar
 
Trade: Residential Steep Slope.
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 21
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Quote:
Originally Posted by flashingmaster56 View Post
If the job I am bidding has the old "Step" on the chimney, and let's say the chimney is the cause of the leak. All I have to say is "It did not work last time". And show the home owner before & after of this chimney. Who do you think will get the job. And I will probably be higher in price.
Then on the Website. "A" Water Tight Roofing & Siding Co. LLC was incorporated in 2002. Licensed Residential Building Contractor has been serving Battle Creek and surrounding communities for over 20 years. Mr. English holds two patents for the only "Chimney Flashing Brake" in the USA. "A" Water Tight Roofing Co. has made an art of flashing chimneys. We are so confident in our ability to make your Roof and Chimney "Water Tight" that we will guarantee your roof to be leak free for the life of your new roof. "A" Water Tight Roofing Co. is the only roofing company to offer you a "30 YEAR NO LEAK WARRANTY". We offer you the "Best Roof at a fair price. Our "30 Year No Leak Warranty" includes covering your ENTIRE roof (The Wood) with Ice Shield. Not just one passes along the bottom, but over the entire roof. This is a little more pricey because the Ice Shield cost twice as much as felt. Some people think this is overkill, we think it is the best roof your money can buy. The shingles could blow off and your roof would not leak. Felt does not allow this type of protection.


With that company philosphy, you might know about flashing a chimney but not about roofing. Once again, another "roofer" putting false ideas and concerns into a homeowners head.
BamBamm5144 is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 07:06 AM   #23
Member
 
flashingmaster56's Avatar
 
Trade: roofing contractor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 75
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


What is false about it. The shingles could blow off and the roof would not leak.
__________________
This new tool is the bomb! If you get a minute check it out.
www.StealthFlashingBrakes.com
flashingmaster56 is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 08:16 AM   #24
Member
 
flashingmaster56's Avatar
 
Trade: roofing contractor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 75
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Hi Bam Bam, For "A guy trying to learn all I can", you might try paying attention. As for as "A" Water Tight Roofing Co., It carries a Licensed Residential Builders License, we are Accredeted members of the Better Business Bureau which means in 20 years of service we have never had a bad report filed against us, We own two Patents for the Chimney Flashing Brake, we have 4 Utility Applications on file pending with the USPTO. "A" Water Tight Roofing Co. GROSSES over $240,000.00 per. year.
I make more money by accident than you do on purpose.
What are your credentials Bam Bam, roofing opperations manager? Does that mean you are a forman? What is the name of your roofing Co.? What type of contractors license do you cary? What have you done to improve the world? This forum seems to be a "clique" one guy says one thing derogitory and the rest of you get on board and stroke him with your best wit. Some of you see things for what they are. Like it, don't like it, take it or leave it, without tearing it apart to try and make themselves feel better. As for you English if we worked in your area you would not have to worry about being run out of town, you would be standing in a soupe line wondering where all the work went.
__________________
This new tool is the bomb! If you get a minute check it out.
www.StealthFlashingBrakes.com
flashingmaster56 is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 08:35 AM   #25
Slate and Metal Roofer
 
tinner666's Avatar
 
Trade: Copper and slate roofer
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 432
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


I wonder why the caps are on top of the term flashing on that bay window. Backwards.
I don't see any tinner's wings on the chimneys either.
You should only cut the mortar. Not the brick. That sticks out like a sore thumb, and should be reserved for flat roofs, or term flashing.
tinner666 is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 09:36 AM   #26
Member
 
flashingmaster56's Avatar
 
Trade: roofing contractor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 75
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Says Who? Were is it writen that you have to make your cut only in the mortar joint? The NRCA says it is an accepted practice. I forgot, you know more than the National Roofing Contractors Association. It seems that a lot of you guyes are smarter than the NRCA. Amazing!
Keep stroking each other eventually you will get a _ _ T. Even a blind squirl gets a nut sometimes.
__________________
This new tool is the bomb! If you get a minute check it out.
www.StealthFlashingBrakes.com
flashingmaster56 is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 03:51 PM   #27
Roofing Expert
 
English Roofer's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 338
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Its not us thats trying to sell your product its you!, and who do you think would be buying your product....? that would be us!, try to take the criticism positively, if we point out a few things you dont like and you return with 'that we dont do it right'
how are you going to sell this product?
My friend you need us more than we need you.
Cheers
Dave

P.S. Light the touch paper Dave and stand back lol
__________________
'I can resist anything but temptation'- Oscar Wilde
www.drroofing.co.uk
English Roofer is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 03:51 PM   #28
Roofing Expert
 
English Roofer's Avatar
 
Trade: Roofing Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 338
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


OH and i love soup!
Cheers
Dave
__________________
'I can resist anything but temptation'- Oscar Wilde
www.drroofing.co.uk
English Roofer is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 04:26 PM   #29
Junior Member
 
BamBamm5144's Avatar
 
Trade: Residential Steep Slope.
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 21
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Actually FlashMaster my title would be Operations Manager / Partner / Vice President. I just made it more simple for you to understand because most people understand that an Operations Manager is highly involved in the business. The majority owner of the company prefers not to have the company name mentioned on a forum available for the whole internet to see for instances like this when there are shouting arguments.

I dont believe in the scam of paying into the BBB so we arent. You do know that you can have as many complaints against you as possible and they will still gladly take your money, right? We are fully licensed and insured. We are certified installers of Gaf/Elk and Certainteed. We are members of NARI and the NCRA. We are certified by the Vinyl Siding Institute as well as Air Vent Corportation.

In our first year in business we did more than double your 240,000 a year gross sales but, we arent talking numbers as there is no point to it.

There are times when I flash a chimney like you do as well. All I was pointing out is that you arent very business savvy to offer a 30 year warranty especially if you Ice And Water the whole deck without proper ventilation. Sooner or later that is going to catch up to you and it will get you in trouble.

I have been posting on other forums for awhile, so yes, I am always trying to learn all I can. There is always something new, especially since I am not even in my 30's yet I have learned good business and technique advice from guys with much more experience. Also, the only thing Ive really done to improve the world I guess would be how far out of my way I go to help people out when they need it.

I have nothing to say bad about your break and congradulations on all the patents and all the progess youve made with it.

Also, English Roofer does a lot of high end slate work. That means he wouldn't be in the soup line as very few people have the skills to accomplish what he does. You guys would be in two different neighborhoods.

That is all.
BamBamm5144 is offline  
Old 01-07-2010, 04:41 PM   #30
Member
 
flashingmaster56's Avatar
 
Trade: roofing contractor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 75
Default

Re: Stealth Chimney Flashing Brake


Quote:
Originally Posted by BamBamm5144 View Post
Then on the Website. "A" Water Tight Roofing & Siding Co. LLC was incorporated in 2002. Licensed Residential Building Contractor has been serving Battle Creek and surrounding communities for over 20 years. Mr. English holds two patents for the only "Chimney Flashing Brake" in the USA. "A" Water Tight Roofing Co. has made an art of flashing chimneys. We are so confident in our ability to make your Roof and Chimney "Water Tight" that we will guarantee your roof to be leak free for the life of your new roof. "A" Water Tight Roofing Co. is the only roofing company to offer you a "30 YEAR NO LEAK WARRANTY". We offer you the "Best Roof at a fair price. Our "30 Year No Leak Warranty" includes covering your ENTIRE roof (The Wood) with Ice Shield. Not just one passes along the bottom, but over the entire roof. This is a little more pricey because the Ice Shield cost twice as much as felt. Some people think this is overkill, we think it is the best roof your money can buy. The shingles could blow off and your roof would not leak. Felt does not allow this type of protection.


With that company philosphy, you might know about flashing a chimney but not about roofing. Once again, another "roofer" putting false ideas and concerns into a homeowners head.
What proof do you have that it is false. I doubt that you are much over 30 years old. This means you have been roofing about what 10 or 15 years, at the most. That is not long enough to see your first 3 tab shingle wear out. I have roofs 20 years old, roofed with 3 tab OC and 15 pound felt that are slill "Water Tight". What makes you think all Ice Shield with a 35 year ark. will not last 30 years.
Have'nt you ever offered the home owner all ice shield on a 6/12 or lower pitch roof job? It is a selling point most roofers will not use because they have to absorb some of the differanse in cost. With a good presentation, show the homeowner a piece of Ice Shield and a piece of felt. (I keep a piece of Ice Shield on my dash all summer, this way it stays hot & tacky) Tear the felt in front of them then show them the Ice Shield, pull the backing off and let them feel how tacky it is. (Leave a samples with them). "Now imagine your whole roof covered with this". "You only do this once every thirty years, let us do it right the first time". Explain the cost differance between Ice Shield and felt, and tell them you will submitt two proposals for them to look over. One with felt and one with all Ice Shield.
When the homeowner sees that your # for felt are in line with the rest of their estimates they will understand the price differance is in the better material cost.
Our philosophy is to provide the home owner the best roof their money can buy. What do you see wrong with that?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2002_01010069.jpg (88.5 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 2002_01010070.jpg (96.9 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg Picture 1778.jpg (99.8 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg 2002_01010079.JPG (76.9 KB, 1 views)
__________________
This new tool is the bomb! If you get a minute check it out.
www.StealthFlashingBrakes.com

Last edited by flashingmaster56; 01-07-2010 at 04:51 PM.
flashingmaster56 is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Chimney Flashing Mike Lamb General Roofing Discussion 8 11-23-2008 01:34 PM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

Privacy Badge
I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
ContractorTalk.com is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At ContractorTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?


Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0